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Date: Mon, 14 Mar 94 13:34:51 PST
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Info-Hams Digest            Mon, 14 Mar 94       Volume 94 : Issue  288

Today's Topics:
                           4-1000A Chimney
                    Best cars for mobile HF/VHF??
                  Best truck/sport util for HF/VHF?
                       CAN WE SELL STUFF HERE?
       Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 13 March
                       Definition of CW speeds
                  Electronic Schematics-Exo (2 msgs)
                  Grounding and lightning protection
                      Help with FTPing! (2 msgs)
                PS/2 into Repeater Controller (2 msgs)
                        Telemetering Hardware

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Date: 14 Mar 94 19:26:52 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp![e-mail]
Subject: 4-1000A Chimney
To: [e-mail]

Jack GF Hill ([e-mail]) wrote:
: [e-mail] (Alan Bloom) writes:
: > Don Turner ([e-mail]) wrote:
: > : Hi Guys:  I need a chimney for my 4-1000A tube.  The Eimac part number
: > : is SK-506.  If any of you are will to let go of one of these, leave a
: > : message.  .....Don Turner WA6WRX
: >
: > I know that a Coleman lantern globes work perfectly for 3-1000's.  Not sure
: > if they work with 4-1000's.  They are much cheaper than Eimac chimneys.
: Good thought, Al! Never tried that myself, but a fairly easy
: substitute is a LARGE Pickel jar... fire a string around the
: "bottom/top" and POOF! A chimney!  ;^)

You want to be careful what kind of glass you use.  Coleman lantern globes
are heat-resistant, so are a good choice for a tube chimney.

They are just the right size, too!

AL N1AL

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Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 17:25:52 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!cs.uiuc.edu!news1.oakland.edu!rcsuna.gmr.com!kocrsv01![e-mail]
Subject: Best cars for mobile HF/VHF??
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Gary Coffman) writes:
> In article <2lor4d$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Robert Penneys) writes:
> >I need to replace a car and want one which 100 watts or so of HF and 50 watts
> >or so of 2 meters or 440 will not interfere with the electronics af the
> >vehicle. Nor do I want ignition or other noise beyond the bare minimum.
> >
> >In consideration are four door sedans from the size of a Corolla up to that
> >of a Taurus. or perhaps a minivan or small pickup. Replacing a Ford
> >Aerostar.


My '94 Chevy Lumina Euro seems OK for HF; I'd planted my Kenwood
TS-140 on the passenger seat the other day, and had NO problems.
75W out on 20M thru the cigarette lighter; OK, large capacitor and
ferrite torroid on power lines, left over from my '88 Grand Am whose
"Driver Information Center" didn't like the 20M band :-).  Couldn't
even find the "birdies" from the Engine Control Module's uP!

The only discernable "noise" is a small bit of hash from the fuel pump,
and a lot of hash when raising/lowering the power windows.  I suspect
a simple LCL Pi filter on the fuel pump harness (near the fuel pump)
would take out the noise, but so does the noise blanker on the radio.


BTW:
Not to make this a big sale pitch for GM, but we do a LOT of RFI
testing on our cars to make sure that they neither corrupt nor get
corrupted by ham rigs.  Stop by the GM booth at the Dayton HamVention
and we can talk some more . . .
--
James C. Bach              Ph: (317)-451-0455     The views & opinions expressed
Advanced Project Engr.     GM-NET: 8-322-0455     herein are mine alone, and are
Powertrain Strategy Grp    Amateur Radio: WY9F    NOT endorsed, sponsored, nor
Delco Electronics Corp.    Just say NO to UNIX!   encouraged by DE or GM.

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Date: 14 Mar 1994 16:41:17 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!emory!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.kei.com!yeshua.marcam.com!charnel!olivea!news.bbn.com!news![e-mail]
Subject: Best truck/sport util for HF/VHF?
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gary Coffman) writes:
   Well if it's a sport utility that you want, the Jeep Cherokee or Jeep
   Comanche pickup are hard to beat. . . .

Without commenting on their suitability for radio (and I know at least
one person who has had a large HF station in a Jeep), in this part of
the country (Northern New England) used Jeeps have been known as cars
to avoid due to the amount of rust they develop.  This is not an issue
in the southwest, and I doubt they use much salt on the roads in the
Atlanta area.  Your mileage (sorry) may vary.

 /JBL   KD1ON
=
Nets: [e-mail]  |
pots: [phone]  |                                      "I gotta go."
KD1ON (@KB4N.NH.USA) |                                            -- I. Shoales

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Date: 14 Mar 94 20:40:00 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: CAN WE SELL STUFF HERE?
To: [e-mail]

>are two reasons I am a bit apprehensive about "a million newbies in one
>fell swoop" number one is that there is less of an opportunity for these
>people to learn netiquette before posting and many of them don't lurk for
>two or three months before jumping in with both feet, a side effect of
>paying for your first account I suppose. The second reason is that as the

This is sorta like the burst we've seen in amateur radio with the Technician
license.

Big jump of new people and not enough "old guys" running around to do the
introductions....what it means is that we get to find out if "netiquette" is
up to the task.  if it works well for most it will continue pretty much the
way it is, if it's not, it will "change" and either improve or degrade.

It's like the rear guard still fighting the battles over the use of the word
"destinated" - usually by replacing it with something a lot more wordy that
means "arrived".

bill wb9ivr

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Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 08:03:36 MST
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!news.mic.ucla.edu!unixg.ubc.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs![e-mail]
Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 13 March
To: [e-mail]

                /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                 DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY

                                 13 MARCH, 1994

                /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                  (Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data)


SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY INDICES FOR 13 MARCH, 1994
---------------------------------------------------------

NOTE: Stratospheric warming continues to exist over Siberia, the polar
      region, and Greenland.  Temperature gradient is reversed between 60N
      and the pole at 10 HPA and above.

!!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 072, 03/13/94
10.7 FLUX=090.1  90-AVG=106        SSN=060      BKI=4524 3324  BAI=021
BGND-XRAY=B1.1     FLU1=1.9E+06  FLU10=2.4E+04  PKI=5534 3334  PAI=022
  BOU-DEV=069,081,019,046,029,031,017,042   DEV-AVG=041 NT     SWF=00:000
 XRAY-MAX= B6.6   @ 0628UT    XRAY-MIN= A8.2   @ 2330UT   XRAY-AVG= B1.5
NEUTN-MAX= +003%  @ 1845UT   NEUTN-MIN= -002%  @ 1655UT  NEUTN-AVG= +0.1%
  PCA-MAX= +0.2DB @ 2345UT     PCA-MIN= -0.3DB @ 0840UT    PCA-AVG= +0.0DB
BOUTF-MAX=55364NT @ 0355UT   BOUTF-MIN=55310NT @ 1817UT  BOUTF-AVG=55335NT
GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT   GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT  G7-AVG=+068,+000,+000
GOES6-MAX=P:+133NT@ 1815UT   GOES6-MIN=N:-130NT@ 0331UT  G6-AVG=+089,+026,-052
 FLUXFCST=STD:090,090,095;SESC:090,090,095 BAI/PAI-FCST=015,015,015/020,015,010
    KFCST=2213 4122 2214 5111  27DAY-AP=028,018   27DAY-KP=4443 3544 4333 5333
 WARNINGS=*GSTRM
   ALERTS=
!!END-DATA!!

NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 12 MAR 94 was  32.1.
      The Full Kp Indices for 12 MAR 94 are: 4o 4+ 6o 5o   5o 3o 4- 4-
      The 3-Hr Ap Indices for 12 MAR 94 are:  29  34  80  46  46  16  25  24
      Greater than 2 MeV Electron Fluence for 13 MAR is: 1.6E+09


SYNOPSIS OF ACTIVITY
--------------------

             Solar activity was very low. No activity beyond a B4/SF
       flare in Region 7690 (S15W68) occurred.

            Solar activity forecast:  solar activity is expected to be
       very low to low. Region 7688 (N18E33) has the best chance for
       C-class activity.

            The geomagnetic field has been at unsettled to active
       levels for the past 24 hours. High latitude stations reported
       occassional minor storm levels. Energetic electron fluxes
       (GT 2 MeV) have receded to moderate levels.

            Geophysical activity forecast:  the geomagnetic field is
       expected to be mostly unsettled for the entire forecast period.
       High latitude stations may still experience active levels for
       the next 24 hours.

            Event probabilities 14 mar-16 mar

                             Class M    01/05/05
                             Class X    01/01/01
                             Proton     01/01/01
                             PCAF       Green

            Geomagnetic activity probabilities 14 mar-16 mar

                        A.  Middle Latitudes
                        Active                25/25/25
                        Minor Storm           25/15/15
                        Major-Severe Storm    05/05/05

                        B.  High Latitudes
                        Active                20/35/25
                        Minor Storm           30/15/15
                        Major-Severe Storm    10/05/05

            HF propagation conditions were below-normal, but slowly
       improving over the high and polar latitude regions.  Middle
       latitude paths were returning to near-normal values today.
       High and polar latitudes should return to near-normal values
       (with sporadic periods of minor night-sector signal
       degradation) by about 15 or 16 March.


COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS
========================================================

REGIONS WITH SUNSPOTS. LOCATIONS VALID AT 13/2400Z MARCH
--------------------------------------------------------
NMBR LOCATION  LO  AREA  Z   LL   NN MAG TYPE
7685  S08W83  342  0040 HSX  02  002 ALPHA
7688  N19E33  226  0110 DAO  08  010 BETA
7689  S10W65  324  0010 BXO  04  003 BETA
7690  S14W69  328  0010 BXO  07  005 BETA
7687  N18W79  338                    PLAGE
REGIONS DUE TO RETURN 14 MARCH TO 16 MARCH
NMBR LAT    LO
NONE


LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 13 MARCH, 1994
----------------------------------------------------
A.  ENERGETIC EVENTS:
BEGIN  MAX  END  RGN   LOC   XRAY  OP 245MHZ 10CM   SWEEP
NONE



POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 13 MARCH, 1994
--------------------------------------------------------
 BEGIN        MAX      END     LOCATION   TYPE   SIZE  DUR  II IV
     NO EVENTS OBSERVED


INFERRED CORONAL HOLES. LOCATIONS VALID AT 13/2400Z
---------------------------------------------------
               ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXTENSIONS
      EAST   SOUTH  WEST   NORTH  CAR  TYPE  POL  AREA   OBSN
                 NO DATA AVAILABLE FOR ANALYSIS


SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
------------------------------------------------

 Date   Begin  Max   End  Xray  Op Region  Locn    2695 MHz  8800 MHz  15.4 GHz
------  ----  ----  ----  ----  -- ------ ------  --------- --------- ---------
12 Mar: 0009  0013  0015  B2.0
        0603  0609  0611  B2.7
        0736  0743  0747  C1.1
        1000  1004  1009  B2.9
        1253  1303  1313  B3.0  SF  7688  N17E53
        1726  1734  1744  B3.2
        1914  1934  1944  B3.0
        2044  2050  2100  B5.4
        2336  2341  2347  B3.1


REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
------------------------------------------------

                C   M   X     S   1   2   3   4   Total   (%)
               --  --  --    --  --  --  --  --    ---  ------
  Region 7688:  0   0   0     1   0   0   0   0    001  (11.1)
Uncorrellated: 1   0   0     0   0   0   0   0    008  (88.9)

 Total Events: 009 optical and x-ray.


EVENTS WITH SWEEPS AND/OR OPTICAL PHENOMENA FOR THE LAST UTC DAY
----------------------------------------------------------------

 Date   Begin  Max   End  Xray  Op Region  Locn    Sweeps/Optical Observations
------  ----  ----  ----  ----  -- ------ ------   ---------------------------
12 Mar: 0009  0013  0015  B2.0                     III
        1253  1303  1313  B3.0  SF  7688  N17E53   III
        1914  1934  1944  B3.0                     III

NOTES:
     All times are in Universal Time (UT).  Characters preceding begin, max,
     and end times are defined as:  B = Before,  U = Uncertain,  A = After.
     All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce
     associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the
     x-rays.  Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the
     optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times.

     Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include:

          II        = Type II Sweep Frequency Event
          III       = Type III Sweep
          IV        = Type IV Sweep
          V         = Type V Sweep
          Continuum = Continuum Radio Event
          Loop      = Loop Prominence System,
          Spray     = Limb Spray,
          Surge     = Bright Limb Surge,
          EPL       = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb.


**  End of Daily Report  **

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Date: 14 Mar 94 19:40:00 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp![e-mail]
Subject: Definition of CW speeds
To: [e-mail]

William J Turner ([e-mail]) wrote:

: FYI--the accepted "correct" ratios are 3 to 1.  Thus a dah is three times the
: length of a dit.  ...

: This is why peole who have some background in music generally have a cleaner
: fist--it's in the tripletts.

When you include the space between elements, the dash/dot ratio is 2:

Dot       Dash

XXXXX     XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX     XXXXXetc.........
<-1-><-1-><------3------><-1->
<----2---><--------4--------->

A string of dots has twice the number of elements per second as a
string of dahs.  So I like to think of dots as (stacatto) quarter notes
and dahs as half notes.  No triplets required!

AL N1AL

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Date: Sun, 13 Mar 94 08:31:00 -0400
From: hub.cs.jmu.edu!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!pplace![e-mail]
Subject: Electronic Schematics-Exo
To: [e-mail]

ME-->Would anyone mind assisting me by downloading my catalog from the BBS and
  -->let me know if it is possible to post it in specified groups of people who
  -->could possibly become part of our manufacturing team of exotic surveillanc
  -->gear for law enforcement agencies.

I would like to hear more about this.  I am self employed and have
electronics experience.  I have been servicing equipment since 1976.

Thanks

---
   SLMR 2.1a   KC4YLX DX-CLUSTER & WA4TFZ PBBS       [e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 13 Mar 94 08:31:00 -0400
From: hub.cs.jmu.edu!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!pplace![e-mail]
Subject: Electronic Schematics-Exo
To: [e-mail]

ME-->Would anyone mind assisting me by downloading my catalog from the BBS and
  -->let me know if it is possible to post it in specified groups of people who
  -->could possibly become part of our manufacturing team of exotic surveillanc
  -->gear for law enforcement agencies.

I would like to hear more about this.  I am self employed and have
electronics experience.  I have been servicing equipment since 1976.

Thanks

---
   SLMR 2.1a   KC4YLX DX-CLUSTER & WA4TFZ PBBS       [e-mail]

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Date: 14 Mar 94 19:57:50 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp![e-mail]
Subject: Grounding and lightning protection
To: [e-mail]

Gary Coffman ([e-mail]) wrote:

[re:  do lightning rods prevent lightning hits]

: This is a common misconception, and a few companies have made good
: livings feeding this error. But the FAA put it to rest with their
: field tests in Florida. They set up a series of towers, ...

Gary, do you have the literature reference for that study?  I'd like
to read it.

: Now remembering that 20 Coulombs have to be dissipated, the following
: formula tells how long that would take.

: T = 3600*Q*I

There's a typo in the above equation -- the units don't work out.
(Seconds don't equal coulombs * coulombs/sec)   Also, to convert from
seconds to hours you divide by 3600.  I think the equation should be:

T = (Q/I) / 3600

AL N1AL

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Date: Mon, 14 Mar 94 09:06:22 PST
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!mustang.mst6.lanl.gov!newshost.lanl.gov![e-mail]
Subject: Help with FTPing!
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
<[e-mail]> writes:
> Path:
newshost.lanl.gov!ncar!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!ihnp
4.ucsd.edu!network.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway
> From: [e-mail]
> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
> Subject: Help with FTPing!
> Date: 11 Mar 94 10:41:00 GMT
> Organization: ucsd usenet gateway
> Lines: 13
> Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
> Originator: [e-mail]
>
> Gile
> as a .ZIP but cannot UNZip it...I ALWAYS get "WARNING!" file fails CRC check
or





It is very simple type binary at the FTP prompt before making the transfer.
You have been transferring in ascii compressed files are by definition
binary. Have fun 73 Gerald Schmitt KC5EGG

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Date: 14 Mar 94 18:43:26 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Help with FTPing!
To: [e-mail]

Roger asks:

        Greetings...you'll have to excuse my lack of knowledge when it
        comes to using FTP procedures....haven't been at this long....using
        FTP I login to FUNE.FI, no problem there...once I find a .ZIP file
        I want I ask it to GET the file... again no problem, the program is
        sent to my local mainframe...I log off of the FTP address and go to
        the local mainframe and ask to send...I receive the file
        as a .ZIP but cannot UNZip it...I ALWAYS get "WARNING!" file fails
        CRC check or "has bad table"....on the local mainframe we have to
        use KERMIT to transfer files...or at least that is what I was
        told....like I said, I'm new at this so please exucuse my lack of
        knowledge associated with using FTP procedures...I thank you in
        advance for any information I might receive. <snip>

You need to transfer the file as a binary, to do this, invoke the "bin"
(binary) command before the "get" command. If you are transferring  several
binary files, you only need to issue the "bin" command before the first
one, it is a toggle to binary mode. Otherwise, the default file transfer
mode is ascii. That should fix your problem. You may also want to make sure
you have pkunzip 2.04 rather than an earlier version, since you can not
unzip a file zipped with 2.04 with an old unzip.

73

_____________________________________________________________________
Wm. A. Kirsanoff              Internet: [e-mail]
Rockwell International        Ham: KD6MCI
[phone]
Alternate Internet: [e-mail]
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Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 16:34:12 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!csd.unb.ca![e-mail]
Subject: PS/2 into Repeater Controller
To: [e-mail]

 I have a PS/2 Model 30 sitting idle on my desk.....I have no hard drive for
it, so I'm looking for a possible application for it. I'd like to know
if anyone has any information on how I might change this unit into a
repeater controller.

Don Trynor  VE9NZ


--
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| Donald J. Trynor  EE            | " I`ve got a strong urge to fly...   |
| University of New Brunswick     | ...but I've got no where to fly to." |
| [e-mail]     |                                      |

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Date: 14 Mar 94 19:32:36 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!news.Brown.EDU!NewsWatcher![e-mail]
Subject: PS/2 into Repeater Controller
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (D.J.Trynor EE) wrote:

>  I have a PS/2 Model 30 sitting idle on my desk.....I have no hard drive for
> it, so I'm looking for a possible application for it. I'd like to know
> if anyone has any information on how I might change this unit into a
> repeater controller.
>
> Don Trynor  VE9NZ

Actually it could be done. You'll need some sort of card that will allow
you to control relays, etc. They sell them in some of the engineering
magazines for roughly $200.

The software end wouldn't be too complicated either, and with a hard drive
it'd be one kick-butt controller. Hell.. think of the mods you could make!

Tony
--
== [e-mail] (Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR)
== Box 1908, Providence, RI 02912 Tel. [phone]
== All opinions expressed are those of the individual, and not those
== of Brown University.

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Date: 13 Mar 94 18:27:55 GMT
From: concert!gatech!prism![e-mail]
Subject: Telemetering Hardware
To: [e-mail]

Perhaps some of you can help me with a couple of projects we have in our
Biodynamics lab. We have need for transmitting (one way) some analog and
digital signals to a nearby PC for recording and later processing, but
need a wireless link. On one project, the maximum distance is around 30'
(mobile cats walking around) and the other, around 1 mile (instrumenting
Olympic cyclists).

Can you recommend vendors that offer kits, modules or systems that
enable the wireless transmission of analog and digital signals over small
distances? More specifically, we would like to remote 4+ x 2000 hz,
analog (12 bit range) signals to a PC. I could ADC and convert to high
speed serial locally then transmit a digital serial stream. I am familiar
with EE cktry so am not afraid to build peripherial equipment but need
help with the basic RF link.

Your help is most appreciated. Since I don't often read newsgroups, I
would appreciate any information mailed to me @

 [e-mail]

Thanks in advance.   -Mike Sinclair-

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Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 17:32:59 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!cs.uiuc.edu!news1.oakland.edu!rcsuna.gmr.com!kocrsv01![e-mail].
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>.a
Subject : Re: Best cars for mobile HF/VHF??


In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Daniel T Senie) writes:
> >
> >   Give serious thought to Diesels,   no ignition, no computers
> >
>
                                                       ^^^^^^^^^^
                                                        ! WRONG !

We've been building diesel engine controllers for many many years.

In fact, we've got an engine controller for LP-fueled fork-lifts!

And we've got a controller for marine applications; one of them even
got submerged (with the boat) in salt-water for 10 weeks, and after
they dredged-out the boat (and cleaned-up the engine) the engine
started on the 1st-crank with THAT controller.  But I digress.

There are several diesel models with computers controlling the
electronically controlled transmissions!

And what about the instrument cluster, CD player/Radio, etc.?
--
James C. Bach              Ph: (317)-451-0455     The views & opinions expressed
Advanced Project Engr.     GM-NET: 8-322-0455     herein are mine alone, and are
Powertrain Strategy Grp    Amateur Radio: WY9F    NOT endorsed, sponsored, nor
Delco Electronics Corp.    Just say NO to UNIX!   encouraged by DE or GM.

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Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 19:22:52 GMT
From: worldbank.org![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <2lor4d$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <2lqm7q$[e-mail]>uu
Subject : Re: Best cars for mobile HF/VHF??

In article <2lqm7q$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Steven
Jackson) writes:
>|> Look at what the cops are driving. Ford Crown Victorias seem popular
>|> with them, as do Chevy Caprices. Order your's with the same fleet codes
>|> that they use and you'll have a car that works well with radios. (It'll
>|> also have the heavy duty electrical system, cooling system, and suspension
>|> of a cop car.) Get the same color scheme that they use for their unmarked
>|> cars too, that way the antennas won't draw suspicion. (And you may avoid
>|> some tickets.)
>
>I had been thinking the same thing for quite a while, too.  Only not for the
>ability to work with radios, more because the Caprices look like they'll be
>a comfortable ride and the antennas will look normal on them.  In fact, I've
>been trying to find the tiny antennas they have mounted on the roof
immediately
>above to rear window for scanner use.  That'll definitely finish the image
off.
>Problem is, what are they usually tuned to?  Of course, you could always get
>a cellular lookalike 2m trunk lip mount to complement the roof mount.
>--
>Steven Jackson                                              New York
University
>Assistant to the Chair of Comp Sci       Courant Inst. of Mathematical
Sciences
>[e-mail], jcksnste@acfcluster        251 Mercer St, Room 411,NY
10012
>         "Not in my head.. so I don't have to think.." --  Nik Fiend
>

Yea, but who wants to be seen in an LTD or Caprice - dead or alive?

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Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 17:07:51 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!newshub.ccs.yorku.ca!apogee.ccs.yorku.ca![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: Diesel or Taurus fr HF/VHF mobile??

Gary Coffman ([e-mail]) wrote:
: systems disconnected, it still made the pseudo-ignition noise. The best
: guess we could come up with was that the plasma formed by combustion was
: somehow shock exciting something and causing it to radiate. We considered
: static discharges due to the rotating machinery, but we bonded *everything*,
: including finger stock on the crank and cam, and on the injection pump
: cam, and we put anti-static brushes on the clutch, all without making it
: go away.

For a wild shot, could there have been a Piezo-electric (sp?) effect taking
place with the ignitors or some such thing (i.e. the shock wave from
combustion causing a piezo-electric discharge)?

73 de Ed/VE3ZVZ

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Date: 14 Mar 1994 17:50:30 GMT
From: nothing.ucsd.edu![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: CAN WE SELL STUFF HERE?

>Gilbert Baron ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: >happens in the newsgroups, if you think it's bad now AOL is now on the
>: >newsgroups another million newbies in one fell swoop.

A large part of the problem is that these services offer "free trial
memberships" and allow posting - thus you get people who go out and buy
a modem, get on-line, post a blatantly offensive advertisement to
non-commercial groups, and then go away, having used up their free
trial.  Not much we can do about that person; he's gone.

We have a similar problem here at the University each year as freshmen
get their new computer access.  Luckily more and more of them have some
experience with computer networks when they arrive, but even so, that
experience was gained at the expense of someone somewhere.

AOL, Delphi, Prodigy, and so on are just the latest instances of the
newbie problem.  Perhaps because the users of those systems are PAYING
for their access it's harder to say to them "no posting until you know
what you're doing!".
 - Brian

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